File formats

<Ableton> root attributes per Live version

The root is <Ableton MajorVersion MinorVersion SchemaChangeCount Creator Revision>. Creator is "Ableton Live x.y.z".

CreatorMajorVersionMinorVersionSchemaChangeCountFileRef format
8.2.x–8.4.248.1_22610old
9.0.1 / 9.1.749.0_3053 / 10old (no Ids)
9.6–9.6.249.5_3262 / 7old (no Ids)
9.7.x49.5_327absentold (no Ids)
10.0.1 / 10.0.6510.0_3702 / 11old + Ids
10.1–10.1.43510.0_3772–6old + Ids
11.0 / 11.0.12511.0_433 / 11.0_436absent / 6new
11.2.10511.0_1120217new
11.3.x511.0_113003–7new
12.0512.0_120497new
12.2.5 / 12.2.6512.0_122033new
12.3.x512.0_123001new
12.4.x512.0_124025new + SourceHint

Consequences

  • An older Live refuses files with a newer MinorVersion or SchemaChangeCount.
  • Vst3PluginInfo needs MinorVersion ≥ 10.0_377.
    • Live 12 rejects a VST3 device in 10.0_370 files as "Unknown class 'Vst3PluginInfo' … corrupt".
    • Seen in Live's Log.txt on 2026-09-30; livesaver blocks this (blocker old_format).
  • Live 12.1+ forces "save under a new name" for Sets created by older versions.
  • The MinorVersions in one real library: 350 × Live 9, 72 × 10.0, 279 × 10.1, 160 × 11, 56 × 12 (917 sets, 2026-09-30).